fenikkusu fenikkusu no mi

That still wouldn't limit their lives. They'd be out of the RP for awhile, but as Mimiu said, they'd retain their memories, so they'd only be out for a few years of RP time which could pass as quickly as a week or even a couple days.

Actually, phoniex's age like birds, a bird is an adult in a month.

The person is still human though, so while they can become a bird there human body would still need to age... and a few years is a long time in the roleplay, as if they went by really fast Luffy would be born by now in this story..

If thats true, -why is chopper alive-

Deers do not live for 15 years and still be in tip top shape

because chopper wasn't a human originally, so he'd age like a reindeer.

....then he'd be dead.

Reindeer life up to 10 years, 15 at max.

Chopper ain't around right now...

Don't bring up a bullshit point, that is completely mote, Chopper is 15 -human years- old, and he's still alive, obviously zoans effect the aging process in some way.

Either way you cut it it counts as virtual immortallity, wich is a no-go. And they would not have to age their human body, because it is the same body, just transformed. Its not like he puts the bird body in the basement when the weather isnt good enough to fly in...They would not be out of RP for a long time, in game at least. Tha tall aside what about the other powers that he would have, lets touch upon that, the immortality is the least of our worries here.

So because chopper isnt around now the rules that are clearly embraced by his existance cease to exist?

Clearly it does, because im sorry a reindeer is NOT known for its longevity.

Mimiu, please remember you're supposed to censor your swearing, and obviously, reindeers in One Piece are different then reindeers in real life...

Dont spout that trash Allister, somehow I doubt that Reindeer in One Piece are longer lived then those IRL..I really doubt that is something that was put into the storyline.

Then don't bring non-existing animals, like a phoenix, into One Piece, since they don't exist in One Piece.

I'm done talking in here, sorry for acting like an admin.

You were not acting like an admin for one, and bringing something like this in has potential to destroy what balance there is, she is right. I am trying to figure out what point you are actually defending here allister, because it has holes I can drive a truck through.

I wasn't defending this point just stating my view. Also, your thing about not changing reindeer is kinda invalid because just turning into a reindeer wouldn't give the physical advantages that it does...

I like to think Zoans age as a sort of avrage for there two races, a flay may would not live ver long compare to a normal man but a yurtle man would live longer

Yeah, that would make sense.

furture the pheonix fruit WOULD actualy in effect allow for infinite years of life

but the human gets old

And then dies and restarts as a child.

then I can limit it will do it only 2 times

that wouldent make sense

redmerv i was planning on doing this but you can have my idea if u want give a bird like a falcon a fire logia fruit then it would be like a phoenix

but regardless mimiu is 100% no zoan of animals that don't exist in one piece

well if dragons exist, whos to say phoenixes dont? i say give it only the ability to light its body on fire, take a way the hybrid form, and make it small when in pheonix form. So you can either be a small fiery bird, or a normal human. all other powers (being reborn, controlling fire, ect.) will not aply, you are only able to set yourself on fire.
just a suggestion

Well, the real reason is, we -know- a dragon exists, its been confirmed, and even just being on fire is really powerful...you could set things on fire with ease or even cause massive burns onto someone. Which alone is out of the limits of a zoan, the dragon can -not- breathe fire, so its more of a flying lizard then anything.