A perfect alliance

What two characters from any fictional environment would make the ultimate duo? Invincible in whatever they attempt.

I say the Punisher and Light Yagami.

I'd say your half right, the punisher would be good. But Yagami would not be very good, because he isn't very tough in fact if anyone found out he was Kira or he got in an armed man's way he could be well Bang! dead. I would say that the perfect alliance is infact the punisher and his gun. Why because anyone else would get in his way.

that's just it though, the punisher is a expert fighter but a terrible strategist and light is an ace strategist but not a fighter, the punisher spends allot of his time trying to tract down targets despite already knowing there names and faces, Kira can kill them with only that information, on the other side Light is not able to defend himself and the punisher offers that protection, that combined with there mutual enthusiasm for justice and information databases they would be a good pair.... let me think of one

That's not even close to true. The punisher is an expert strategist and fighter, but he doesn't do mental battles (like Light vs. L) He doesn't get along with many people but does think well and strategises. That's probably the only reason why he is still around. Plus Light would get killed fast by one of Frank's enemies. Also Frank may take time hunting his enemies, but that is good because his enemies are on the run, it's the exact opposite for L kira and so he would be worthless against any "super" because he is bein hunted.
I got another pair, Captain Planet, and Superman, because Captain Planet is the perfect protector of the world and you cannot keep superman down.

thats just it (again) the entire advantage to having light as a partner is that he is unkown

((oh and your match up is the one gohan would go with because he only respects raw power, but light could kill both of them REALLY EASILY))

No light could not kill Superman or Captain Planet easily. If you read the rules to the deathnote it says the human whose name is written in the death note will die. Captain Planet and Superman are not humans and would be fine. Plus i am basing it on the fact that they would protect the world no matter what and not the fact and not give up not the fact they are incredibly strong.

haseo and scar.
Scar has an arm that allows him to break down matter no matter what it is, and has a challenging goal that he could accomplish had he survived. He also held his own against a homonculi without dying in the end, which is HARD to do.
Haseo can use multiple weapons becuase of his class adept rogue. He is the Terror of Death PKK, and has an epitaph, Skeith.
That's my opinion.

Allister your sounding more and more like gohan, you need to learn that theres more to life then being "really really strong"

I know that. but Light couldn't kill anyone that isn't an alien. The reason punisher would be so good is because he isn't driven by emotions and makes level headed decisions all the time, "Not vengeance, Punishment." that is why he survives. Plus if being really strong was all that i liked why would i mention the punisher all along, he doesn't have super strenghth, or any great powers, and i chose Captain Planet and SuperMan because they are heroes that couldn't be corrupted no matter what and always do the right thing./

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what ever

Oh bye the way, if you really only on strategy then if you plan goes amiss your ruined, and the idea of the one who thinks of everything is more ridiculous then a superstrong opponent, because if a escaped prisoner is mad and you predicted he would come and try to manipulate him, he may kill you for annoying him. Because you can't always beat brawn with intelligence and quite alot of strategies fail based on small changes, instead i think someone like the punisher is the best because he has a plan and is quite strong as well plus he has a plan be.

All your planning is worth nothing if your along in a room with a man holding a gun to your head and no one is there to save you. Then there is only to things that can save you, one your own strength, or two your opponent's mercy, and that is never something to depend upon.

just because they're not human doesn't mean they're safe. There isn't a loophole in the Death Note that means that they are safe.
Misa with the eyes could kill superman and captain planet. But, she lost all that, which sucks cause she was a little less annoying with that bit of usefulness.

Actually there is a loopwhole in the beginning of the manga light reads a rule that says "the human whose name is written in the deathnote shall die" it never says anything else. And Rem says that you can't kill a shinigami with the deathnote, that's because they aren't human, and SuperMan is from krypton a different planet, and who really knows what captain planet is.

there's a simple solution to that and its to "have a better plan" then again the sultion to an opponent out of your league is the "get stronger" the perfect plan can not go wrong just as the perfect fighter is unbeatable all the plans you listed are one dimentional and simply ineffective but more importantly I never said ANYTHING about having plans, you simply defended brute strength because it is what you believe in, strategy is meant for the battlefield not an empty room, it looses all use if it can not be applyed in a fight

how do you think smaller numbers win battles? they had tough men?
No, it was strategy.

I believe quickthinking, skill, and knowledge are important and that strength is also valuable. Using techniques and having skill will make anything more efficient or more powerful. For instance i know that pressing at a key point in someone's skeletal structure through pressure applied to the spot above will cause more damage then wild attacking. For instance by pressing your knee to someone's elbow and pulling their elbow back your can break their arm, or by pressing into the wrist, back of the neck or inside of elbow you can cause quite a bit of pain. An example of fighting with skill and strength is that a boxer fights a very specific way. The jabs measure the distance to the opponent, the boxer will roll with punches to avoid damage, and will rotate their hip and shoulder when punching to add force. Brute strength is rarely ever effective without a knowledge of combat.


To answer your question
In war it has something to do with strategy but a tough man is not just tough physically. a tough man is not paralyzed by pain or fear but are instead motivated by it. Smaller numbers winning a fight is not just based on strategy as their have been multiple accounts of when a smaller group is ambushed and wins without the time to think up a plan. An efficient unit is a unit that is not dissuaded by numbers but one that does not quit and fights better than the others. Most of the time smaller numbers are played out in a different way then strategy but by using more of them. Think of this if one army has 300 people and sends 100 people out to war and one army has 250 people and sends out 150 people to war then they don't have smaller numbers.

Weegee and Steamboat Willie, thats right, whatcha gon do!?

If you dont know them, here you go.

I think I'll just call Nintendo and Disney.


Thank you Iggy for getting this topic back on track. This was turning into an argument with no real point, in fact it was quite barbaric.

Indeed it was, I'm tired of all these frivilous arguments. Oh, and weegee isnt owned by Nintendo, infact there trying to pretend he doesnt exsist.

Actually i don't need to do anything to deal with ouigi because nobody pays attention to ouigi, or i could have punisher shoot him. And i agree
that the arguing was pointless. *Punisher loads gun and shoots Ouigi in the head killing Ouigi* I'm calling this a win for punisher.

((you cant call hits))

weegee can not be distroyed by normal means, he is more than a living being... he is an entity unlike anything we know of he is beond a god and at the same time bellow us all.... he and steemboat are... the maddness with in the harts of man

I didn't call the hit the punisher did! So get mad at him! Well actually that's a bad idea he might shoot you, and steamboat willy A.K.A. micky mouse was nearly drowned and i think disney would demand him to retreat. And Ouigi well he is kind of, a insolent stand in.

again you do not understand WEEGEE and WILLY ((NOT ouigi and micky as you call them)) are nothing like there counterparts at all, they are the maddness, they can not be harmed by phisical means, and the punisher can ONLY harm phisicaly, Iggy has won

Oh yeah well no one can beat captain planet he's got the powers of water, fire, wind, earth, and more importantly hear- forgot captain planet.
the punisher has taken daisy hostage and he will shoot her depending on weegee's next action.

And mickey mouse (who played steamboat willie) has no madness.