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PostSubject: Uzu Uzu no Mi   Uzu Uzu no Mi Icon_minitimeWed Apr 24, 2013 5:41 am

Name: Uzu Uzu no Mi (Swirl Swirl Fruit)
Type: Paramecia
Abilities: Uzu Uzu no Mi is a Paramecia type Devil Fruit that turns the user into a swirling man, meaning that the user is able to make anything swirl. Around a 15 meter radius (at first) the user is able to make anything swirl. The swirling circle at first can have a radius up to 5 meters but as the user masters the fruit, the bigger the radius the user can use the ability becomes, as well as the radius of the swirling circle. The things that the user can make swirl can be anything; they can either be a solid surface, a water surface or even the air. By making those surfaces swirl, the user can create whirlpools inside water, make ground swirl to swallow anything around and bury them inside by the time he stops using his ability or to make the air swirl in order to attract things from afar to his hands (basically create whirlpools on land and on air). The user can stop the swirling circles whenever he wants. Also, the user is not affected by the swirls, being a swirl-man. The user can only create one swirling circle at first but by mastering the fruit he can create more. Finally, the longer a swirling circle is set up somewhere, the greater it's depth can become over the time. However, that is solely based on the user's will.
Devil Fruit Mastery: After the user takes part in 3 threads, the user can create a swirling circle in a 30 meter radius (doubled) and the radius of the swirling circle can be up to 10 meters (doubled). After 3 more threads, those two radiuses are doubled to 60 meters and 20 meters respectively. As for the swirling circles that can be created, after the user takes part in 3 threads he can create up to 5 swirling circles (Gear 2nd). However, their combined radiuses can reach up to the maximum limit of the radius that the mastery of the fruit allows (meaning that as this ability is unlocked after taking part in 3 threads, the maximum radiuses of the 5 possible whirlpools combined can be up to 10 meters and not more). After the user takes part in 6 threads, the user can create up to 10 swirling circles, with the same radius restrictions.
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PostSubject: Re: Uzu Uzu no Mi   Uzu Uzu no Mi Icon_minitimeFri Apr 26, 2013 8:24 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Uzu Uzu no Mi   Uzu Uzu no Mi Icon_minitimeMon Dec 23, 2013 5:12 pm

I'd like to re-look this fruit. It screams OP to me for some odd reason. For one thing, he can swirl ANYTHING? Create whirlpools? Tornados? It works on the ocean (despite it being clear that water shouldn't be something DF users should be able to control)? Then he can use anyone's attack and turn it into a 'swirl'? Can he twist the entire ground in those meters and cause massive territorial changes? And why does this remind me of the Twist Twist fruit?
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PostSubject: Re: Uzu Uzu no Mi   Uzu Uzu no Mi Icon_minitimeMon Dec 23, 2013 9:07 pm

A) I was unaware of the existence of the Twist Twist Fruit when I made this one.
B) Secondly, usage on water isn't something that is problematic. Hie Hie's Ice Age works similarly on water, Aokiji can freeze the entire sea.
C) The fruit cannot create Tornados by itself, a swirling area just absorbs anything around it like a whirlpool.
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PostSubject: Re: Uzu Uzu no Mi   Uzu Uzu no Mi Icon_minitimeMon Dec 23, 2013 11:25 pm

A) it still doesn't excuse the similarities.
B) He can freeze the ocean like a magma user can make steam out of water.
C) Explain the limitations int eh fruit then, because apparently he can swirl everything including air.. which makes a F*ing tornado the last time I checked. Also, there has to be some limitations on this fruit since the way I see it the effects are intentionally vague. He can swirl things? So he can just change their shape into something that is swirly? Explain.
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PostSubject: Re: Uzu Uzu no Mi   Uzu Uzu no Mi Icon_minitimeTue Dec 24, 2013 4:20 pm

Whatever, I will just retire the character and delete the fruit
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PostSubject: Re: Uzu Uzu no Mi   Uzu Uzu no Mi Icon_minitimeTue Dec 24, 2013 5:08 pm

Kay.

This fruit has been Rejected until further changes are made on this fruit.
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PostSubject: Re: Uzu Uzu no Mi   Uzu Uzu no Mi Icon_minitimeSun Dec 29, 2013 7:20 am

Okay. Now that I have calmed down, I shall address my points.

A) You are right about it, but in the site there have been numerous times we had fruits with similar powers and were slightly different. One example is that we are having around 3-4 Logia Devil Fruits related to the element of blood.
B) We have seen numerous times in the world of One Piece that using the powers of Devil Fruits on water or even Sea Stone is not impossible. As I said, one example is that of Hie Hie no Mi freezing the water and the candle keys of Doru Doru no Mi opening sea-stone handcuffs. People tend to think that sea-stone and water nullify the effects of fruits but they do not.
C) Don't speak to me ironically, as I never bothered doing the same. Regarding the swirling of air, the power is simple. A swirling circle is formed in the air and objects are just attracted to him. That usage of the fruit is not creating a destructive tornado, it just creates a whirlpool in the air that attracts people and objects without really harming them. It is up to the strength of the user whether he can make that part of the ability destructive (such as using this technique on his own Rankyaku), but that has to do with the user's creativity over his technique list and of course with his character's limits.
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PostSubject: Re: Uzu Uzu no Mi   Uzu Uzu no Mi Icon_minitimeSun Dec 29, 2013 3:06 pm

A) We've also had more numerous times where a mod had to tell a user that the fruit is basically canon, and/or already used. But since you're bent on not using the canon fruit, then I'll stop swinging that little red flag around.

B) I could argue MUCH more on the things you mentioned, and this would easily turn into a canon war. Luckily for me, this statement isn't mentioned in this thread because of canon, so we won't sit here arguing about it for hours/days. A hie hie user should still be able to freeze water, because it is freezing it technically and not controlling the water in anyway, just like a magma user can turn the water to steam by forcing its lava inside it, or a clay user can put clay inside water and semi morph it around. The main thing with your fruit though, is that it basically controls it into a swirling motion (so a vortex). Which *takes out reading glasses and looks at site rules* is a nono. Even the twist fruit couldn't willingly control the ocean like this, and for a reason, so I agree with this rule 110%.

C) I'm more interested in what the entire paragraph was stating, as in, you basically explaining what the fruit did in better words. The way I read it, you use the word 'swirly' a lot, which basically means rotate or Twisting imo. This would make the fruit effectively one of the most overpowered fruits in the site, because he CAN rotate the air into a tornado, with or without the creator's consent because it IS rotating. It can potentially turn a ship into a swirly figure, effectively making it worthless, turn the earth into a death trap by making mud traps without a hint of danger coming, or even swirl objects a user controls and make them.. you know, worthless (cuz who can shoot with a twisted pistol, or swing a swirly sword?) Hell, saying he can make anything swirl means he can make people swirl around and round for a very long time without any hint of stopping it. So auto hitting. Basically, I need clarifications on what the fruit does. Yes it makes things 'swirl' but what does that do and why is it any different then the twist twist fruit? And does the fruit turn things into a swirl shape or does it just rotate them very rapidly? Can the fruit swirl things so much that it can cut the supply of oxygen from an opponent by 'swirling' the air around him but never letting it reach his lungs? Make this fruit less vague or versatile.

PS: It wasn't supposed to be an ironic tone, it's how I moderate without looking like a robot.
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PostSubject: Re: Uzu Uzu no Mi   Uzu Uzu no Mi Icon_minitimeSun Dec 29, 2013 5:25 pm

I know I'm not supposed to post, but I would like to point out two quick things.

A) In canon, fruits have been shown to AFFECT but not CONTROL water and kairoseki. Keep in mind, however, sometimes the line is blurry. Susanoo Alexander makes water spouts without using his fishman karate because he creates a tornado and torandos turn into water spouts on water, just like whitebeard caused a tsunami. Similarly, Hancock's fruit has been shown in canon to turn kairoseki into normal stone. In this case, I would say the swirl fruit could potentially create a water spout like my twist fruit, but not a whirlpool. If the nature of this ability is to create a vortex by swirling, nothing could be done to water until the user figured out how to make tornados.

B) several fruits, including my own neji neji no mi, can catastrophically hinder a ship. In the current dressrosa arc, the art fruit devestated the strawhats' ship. In a similar way, my neji neji no mi can twist a ship into some crazy contortion, though it is limited to alexander's ability to grab it. He couldn't do it all at once, to specify. The real difference between swirling and twisting is twist is more flexible, and swirling more powerful. For this fruit to be approved, I'd say you'd have to make that distinction. your swirling can only go in one direction, so to speak. my twisting can twist any which way, but swirls only swirl in one direction, with maybe one curve. the swirling, however, would be far stronger and faster than my twisting. An example might be I can create a tornado, and the character for this fruit could make a hurricane. I could turn an island into a giant maze after few post, the user of this fruit could not for a VERY long time. This is speaking at full potential of course. The user couldn't start out like this for either fruit.

(I would have sent it to Crow as a not, but since he is the mod and I can't skype it to him, I decided to just go ahead a post. Sorry, hope it helps.)
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