Speed Fruit

You know, this has really bugged me for a while. It doesn't make sense and if any of you admin/mods have a good answer for why my idea is just plain stupid, then I'll shut up and move along. I only hope that you will take the time and actually have an open mind about what I am going to say. And so we go:

When I first came to this website I had an idea. It wasn't unique, and several people had thought of it and tried to get it to work as well. Each time, however, it was shot down before it even got off the ground. The idea was this: Why don't we make a devil fruit that makes my character run really fast? The response to the idea was this: Why don't you just use soru? Well, I'm here to give you several reasons why soru pales in comparison to what you are attempting to use it to replace. My character James's sword is a good example of this. His sword manipulates wind. Great, why don't you use a regular sword and say he can use force to make the wind turn into blades or smash something from several feet away? If I did that I would be ignoring everything the sword does that a regular sword couldn't, like pulling the wind towards it.

First off, what is soru? The onepiece.wikia claims that soru is used by kicking off the ground at least ten times in a blink of an eye. That's all well and good, but for how long does that last? One second? Two? It certainly would not last long enough for you to go a long distance. Besides that, wouldn't you get tired of kicking the ground all day if you used it over and over again? On the other hand there is the speed fruit. Of course, it would all depend on how it was defined in the actual description of the fruit, but I'm fairly certain any fruit of this nature that was created would allow the user to run great distances without having to stop and go all the time like soru. Now that I think of it, soru isn't even running. It's hopping. You're just jumping really fast in the direction you want to go.

Secondly, there's to many possibilities to ignore. With soru it would difficult to think up very many uses for it besides bouncing around a battlefield. With a speed devil fruit there are many things to consider. How does it work? Does it vibrate your body on a molecular level? Do you get tired faster because you are moving at a higher speed? Is your mind also sped up so that you can comprehend what you are seeing faster?

In conclusion, it just doesn't seem right to dismiss a fruit simply because there is something that has a similar effect. Especially when that similar effect is so weak in comparison to the thing that is being dismissed. I know this could be easily overpowered, but like the gravity fruit that is allowed, I'm sure there is a way to make this acceptable and have people use it at the same time. Thank you for reading. For all of you who didn't read but called me an idiot, I hate you all. Unless you're an admin/mod, then I love you because I'm scared of you.

I got a similar fruit :O https://theonepiecerp.rpg-board.net/devil-fruit-sign-ups-f1/jin-jin-no-mi-t2580.htm

Eight Of Spades wrote:

I got a similar fruit :O https://theonepiecerp.rpg-board.net/devil-fruit-sign-ups-f1/jin-jin-no-mi-t2580.htm

You know, to tell you the truth, I forgot about that one. Usually speed fruits are just ignored and thrown away. Perhaps that one would work for what I'm looking for.

It is hell versatile as I planned it on able to accelarate not only limbs but for example cell reproduction or stuff like that but for some cost. Or accelarting speed of creating saliva and bla bla.

But it is mostly acceleration...it doesn't decelerate does it? I dunno if that's what I'm looking for, although I suppose now that it is created then any variation of it would be refused. Anyway, I may as well go ahead and forget this discussion it doesn't matter now.

... I'm sorry, Mr. Cook. I totally see where you're coming from... most of us are a little too rigid in our decisions to consider possibly changing them. All your points are valid. *scratches head* I don't know what to do now.

I do *gets out rejection stamp*

dont think we havent given this any though, frankly to imply that a "speed" power only has use in mobility would be rather close minded however no one has attempted to use a speed fruit for anything but mobility in a childish attempt to be the fastest runner, my problem being that in addition to squandering a DF slot the speed fruit is to general of a concept, speed applies to essentially anything and everything and is, quite simply not applicable to an rp where calling hits is not alowed because there gets to be a point where characters could never doge an attack because they simply would not have time and where as this is NOT technically godmodding it still counts as calling a hit, also the reflexes required to maneuver at speeds beyond soru (as Kuro had already shown) are beyond human limits and would constitute use of the "observation" haki which I will remind you we do not allow

lol, Admin sama has spoken mortal, hahahahhaah

There was an interesting version of a speed fruit. It basically worked like the noro noro beam in reverse. Thoughts?

Actually, observation haki doesn't really have ANYTHING to do with actual eyesight. What it does is that it gives you a mind's eye image of your opponent's next move.
In addition, you are forgetting that Kuro appeared in EB, and the CP appeared in the GL. Kuro is obviously vastly weaker, and the speed is simply too great for him to control. The CP are likely to be as fast as Kuro, since they are much more powerful.
Finally, invoking human limits in the world of One Piece is really entirely arbitrary and not going to make much internal sense. This is a world where a guy can pick up a building and throw it, without even being that much of a superpower. Are you seriously claiming we can invoke human limits here?

if thats the case then whats stoping you from simply explaining your character is that fast in their sheet under spechal abilities? it would be alowed and not a waste of DF slots, just set parameters on it, also you seem to have ignored the fact that there is a certain speed at which no character could posbubly react to the movments of yours in time

Admin-sama wrote:

if thats the case then whats stoping you from simply explaining your character is that fast in their sheet under spechal abilities? it would be alowed and not a waste of DF slots, just set parameters on it, also you seem to have ignored the fact that there is a certain speed at which no character could posbubly react to the movments of yours in time

Nothing is preventing you from doing that, I never said it did.
In addition, yeah, you can be fast enough that a random char cannot react? Your point? It already happens in OP. Just see Kizaru. Drake just keeps looking forward while Kizaru kicks him. Drake didn't even see the most fleeting image of Kizaru's kick before it struck. This proves two things. Kizaru can maneuver at such speeds and that speeds like that are possible. Now I admit that this is using a DF power, but the speed fruit is also a DF power.

he was doing so by transforming in to his logia element, enal also did the same thing but we do not alow logia transformations for just that reason

Actually, the reason quoted is autododge.
However, the same logic applies to G2 Luffy vs random marine. The marine will not even see the fist.

luffy moved only at soru speed, soru is the fastest speed alowed

dont tell me how I make my rules or run my website frog, the quoted reason my be auto doging but if you couldent see that as also being a reason then you must have been lieing to me, anyway point is that Im not alowing it

Err, what did I lie about? I only said that the speed has actually never been put on the banned list. This is immediately apparent by simply reading.
I have no problem with rules, only illogical justifications for them.

Frog Dragon wrote:

Actually, observation haki doesn't really have ANYTHING to do with actual eyesight. What it does is that it gives you a mind's eye image of your opponent's next move.
In addition, you are forgetting that Kuro appeared in EB, and the CP appeared in the GL. Kuro is obviously vastly weaker, and the speed is simply too great for him to control. The CP are likely to be as fast as Kuro, since they are much more powerful.
Finally, invoking human limits in the world of One Piece is really entirely arbitrary and not going to make much internal sense. This is a world where a guy can pick up a building and throw it, without even being that much of a superpower. Are you seriously claiming we can invoke human limits here?

Human limits on human beings is arbitrary? Huh.....never knew that. Might as well just have one of my characters just teleport to the other side of the planet. Or run the entirety of a small country with no water and not feel a thing. Limitations aren't arbitrary, they're NECESSARY. And honestly, try going faster than the human being and reacting in time to actually do anything. There's ALOT of complications to EVERYTHING, and I honestly am only gonna say this once more:
I don't fucking CARE if it's One Piece, things can still MAKE SENSE, CAN'T THEY?!?!

*ahem* Sorry, just......bugged so much by the lack of integrity in the RP Community nowadays.

keymaster wrote:

Frog Dragon wrote:

Actually, observation haki doesn't really have ANYTHING to do with actual eyesight. What it does is that it gives you a mind's eye image of your opponent's next move.
In addition, you are forgetting that Kuro appeared in EB, and the CP appeared in the GL. Kuro is obviously vastly weaker, and the speed is simply too great for him to control. The CP are likely to be as fast as Kuro, since they are much more powerful.
Finally, invoking human limits in the world of One Piece is really entirely arbitrary and not going to make much internal sense. This is a world where a guy can pick up a building and throw it, without even being that much of a superpower. Are you seriously claiming we can invoke human limits here?

Human limits on human beings is arbitrary? Huh.....never knew that. Might as well just have one of my characters just teleport to the other side of the planet. Or run the entirety of a small country with no water and not feel a thing. Limitations aren't arbitrary, they're NECESSARY. And honestly, try going faster than the human being and reacting in time to actually do anything. There's ALOT of complications to EVERYTHING, and I honestly am only gonna say this once more:
I don't fucking CARE if it's One Piece, things can still MAKE SENSE, CAN'T THEY?!?!

*ahem* Sorry, just......bugged so much by the lack of integrity in the RP Community nowadays.

Human limits, as known in our world, do not apply in the one piece world, where people throw buildings. I'm not against restrictions, but using 'human limits' as an argument for this is... silly. Yeah, you can't see where you're going at 300 km/h. You can't throw a building either, the point?

Your point?

My point is that saying "this is the limit" is really entirely arbitrary. I don't mind putting in such a limit, but such a justification is quite flimsy. We don't know the limit of the One Piece Human.

stop arguing, this is supposed to be a peaceful environment, I didn't leave my old rp to continue seeing people fight.

if you dont limit things like speed then there is nothing stoping you from outruning light, this thread will be locked as the speed fruit is not at all open for discussion