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Faceofbear
Posts : 94 Join date : 2009-05-25
| Subject: Koden Koden no Mi, Model: Kirin Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:39 pm | |
| Name in Japanese (translation): Koden Koden no Mi, Model: Kirin (Legend Legend Fruit, Model: Kirin) Capabilities: The Kirin mythical zoan fruit is one of the rarest and least seen of even the mythical fruits. It's rarity is even more so than the logia type of fruit, granting it's eater immense power that some say surpass the logia. The Kirin model first and foremost, in all variations and forms comes with the ability to produce immense amounts of very deadly electricity. The lightning is under full control of the fruit eater and can be used to form weapons and the lot. However, when the eater goes in the hybrid Kirin/Human state a horn made of pure lightning is formed on the head of the eater and becomes a sort of focal point allowing the user to shoot 'beams' of concentrated lightning that explode on impact almost like a laser. The hybrid form also offers greatly enhanced physical attributes, being able to move in almost the blink of an eye and by focusing lightning below them and creating an updraft, even flying. The body isn't changed much in the hybrid form, the muscles are more refined from the lightning stimulating the muscles and a deep blue aura surrounds the eater as well as the eyes begin to glow a bright blue. In the full Kirin form the eater is surrounded by a jagged armor made of pure lightning, resembling that of the mythical Kirin. This armor is said to repel any attack, being as strong as a dragon's scales known to be harder than diamond. In the full Kirin form the user is able to create great storms above the battlefield, fly still and control the wind and lightning from the storm itself. Aside from the normal devil fruit weaknesses, this fruit like any lightning based is less effective on objects made of rubber. However, this would not save someone from a super powered punch to the face. ;] Type: Mythical Zoan ( Admin you know you love me. Lol. This is for a Marine btw.)
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Layman Iconoclast Admin
Posts : 10667 Join date : 2008-07-01 Age : 32 Location : I am everywhere I see everything
| Subject: Re: Koden Koden no Mi, Model: Kirin Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:57 pm | |
| I hadnt even decided to alow mythical zoans yet, as the phonex was so heavily disputed, alow me to reasarech this mythical beast and get back to you | |
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Faceofbear
Posts : 94 Join date : 2009-05-25
| Subject: Re: Koden Koden no Mi, Model: Kirin Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:59 pm | |
| Whaaaat oh come on haha I was going to go for someone like Marco except a Marine. What better way to test the fruits than with a competent RPer with one. Lol. The problem with the Kirin is that it's powers are so varied, some say flame others say illusion some say lightning. However in Japan it is placed as the most powerful creature, even above the Dragon and Phoenix so...lol. | |
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Layman Iconoclast Admin
Posts : 10667 Join date : 2008-07-01 Age : 32 Location : I am everywhere I see everything
| Subject: Re: Koden Koden no Mi, Model: Kirin Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:04 pm | |
| again, I hadnt made that decsion for the site I think marco and his imortality were way to cheap and certainly more so than the rp | |
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Faceofbear
Posts : 94 Join date : 2009-05-25
| Subject: Re: Koden Koden no Mi, Model: Kirin Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:05 pm | |
| Immortality? He isn't really immortal. Kizaru was able to pierce him with lasers. His regeneration ability can't be turned on as a reflex like Logia users turning into their element. Lol. | |
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Layman Iconoclast Admin
Posts : 10667 Join date : 2008-07-01 Age : 32 Location : I am everywhere I see everything
| Subject: Re: Koden Koden no Mi, Model: Kirin Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:35 pm | |
| that was due to seastone, confermed | |
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Faceofbear
Posts : 94 Join date : 2009-05-25
| Subject: Re: Koden Koden no Mi, Model: Kirin Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:39 pm | |
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Faceofbear
Posts : 94 Join date : 2009-05-25
| Subject: Re: Koden Koden no Mi, Model: Kirin Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:41 pm | |
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Layman Iconoclast Admin
Posts : 10667 Join date : 2008-07-01 Age : 32 Location : I am everywhere I see everything
| Subject: Re: Koden Koden no Mi, Model: Kirin Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:15 pm | |
| right, he gets hit in the previous chapter but is unharmed upon becoming a pheonex, the lazers cause him to bleed and colapse once the cuffs are on | |
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Iggy Admin
Posts : 3583 Join date : 2008-07-02 Age : 31 Location : The hearts and songs of all the worlds children.
| Subject: Re: Koden Koden no Mi, Model: Kirin Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:39 pm | |
| - Faceofbear wrote:
- Whaaaat oh come on haha I was going to go for someone like Marco except a Marine. What better way to test the fruits than with a competent RPer with one. Lol. The problem with the Kirin is that it's powers are so varied, some say flame others say illusion some say lightning. However in Japan it is placed as the most powerful creature, even above the Dragon and Phoenix so...lol.
It's actualy third, below the dragon and phoenix. Not that that pertains, I'm just spouting hot air. | |
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Layman Iconoclast Admin
Posts : 10667 Join date : 2008-07-01 Age : 32 Location : I am everywhere I see everything
| Subject: Re: Koden Koden no Mi, Model: Kirin Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:48 pm | |
| Dragons are in one piece as normal animals, see the ark apiss is in and the pheonex is cannon | |
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Faceofbear
Posts : 94 Join date : 2009-05-25
| Subject: Re: Koden Koden no Mi, Model: Kirin Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:49 pm | |
| Iggy sorry but you are wrong. In the Post-Qin Chinese hierarchy of mythological animals, the Qilin is ranked as the third most powerful creature (after the dragon and phoenix), but in Japan, the Kirin occupies the top spot. This is following the style of the ancient Chinese, as Qilin was ranked higher than the Dragon or Phoenix before the Qin Dynasty. During the Zhou dynasty, the Qilin was ranked the highest, the Phoenix ranked second and the Dragon the third. And Admin he doesn't use his phoenix power in between the chapters also you can clearly see that when he gets the cuffs put on him, on his back there are still two bleeding wounds from the previous laser attacks. | |
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Iggy Admin
Posts : 3583 Join date : 2008-07-02 Age : 31 Location : The hearts and songs of all the worlds children.
| Subject: Re: Koden Koden no Mi, Model: Kirin Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:00 am | |
| So it's different for Japan then. Gotcha. | |
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Faceofbear
Posts : 94 Join date : 2009-05-25
| Subject: Re: Koden Koden no Mi, Model: Kirin Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:04 am | |
| Yeah haha look the character isn't going to be some pirate killing douche. I just A.) Like the Kirin. B.) I want to have a marine with a unique ability. C.) His personality is going to fit the beast in a weird way and D.) You can use me to see if any future Mythical Zoans work. I don't god mod even with strong fruit. That's lame as Poop. | |
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Irrational Admin
Posts : 1284 Join date : 2008-07-20 Age : 35 Location : No one needs to know.
| Subject: Re: Koden Koden no Mi, Model: Kirin Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:50 am | |
| I would have to also add my input on this. In keeping with the patterns seen in the manga, any zoan fruit alters an individual to become a hybrid of a common animal. While this form can enhance the physical abilities of an individual, it will not grant any special abilities.
Another problem is of course power level. An offensive power that strong would require a rather debilitating penalty to even be considered balanced. Regardless of your intentions of play, I personally will not be making an assumption; though my word is far from final.
If, however; you wanted to make this fruit attached to a character used in a story and or possible adventure, this could be acceptable as a lead antagonist. It would not be acceptable however, to attach this fruit to a general rp character as it is now though. I unfortunately see too many ways this could be abused. | |
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Faceofbear
Posts : 94 Join date : 2009-05-25
| Subject: Re: Koden Koden no Mi, Model: Kirin Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:51 am | |
| Mythical Zoan's have been shown to give 'special abilities' like Marco The Phoenix's flames/regenerative/flying ability. I guess you haven't been keeping up with One Piece? Lol this is no normal Zoan fruit. And, as shown by many other fruits they are never exactly balanced...the light from Kizaru's fruit for example explode in massive explosions with no ill will to the user. There is no 'resource' for devil fruit abilities like reiatsu in Bleach or chakra in Naruto. You are taking my language used in the description too far. The details on the armor I just used hyperbole to show that it is very powerful and resilient. I took out the part of 'large beams' I will 'beams' fit better as in my head I imagined them small...like Kizaru's except well a little bigger and more jagged like lightning. Lol. | |
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Irrational Admin
Posts : 1284 Join date : 2008-07-20 Age : 35 Location : No one needs to know.
| Subject: Re: Koden Koden no Mi, Model: Kirin Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:13 am | |
| My apologies. I have forgotten about Marco. His appearance was rather... short lived.
I suppose then that the concept would be fine, but for general rp, it needs some work. I am sure you can understand that abilities at that level would be in poor taste with a character that could appear in any rp thread. That is why I suggested that any character using the fruit as is could be an adversary to another character or group of characters. Appearing in specific story threads.
While I am not immediately opposed to the idea, it is the issue of having both an ultra powerful attack and defense that leads me to believe this could cause issues down the road.
Just as a general rule of thumb, we have tried to keep rp characters' strengths below that of Rob Lucci. At least that was the original plan. | |
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Faceofbear
Posts : 94 Join date : 2009-05-25
| Subject: Re: Koden Koden no Mi, Model: Kirin Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:16 am | |
| Short lived? Haha he was caught off guard. He was on par with the Admiral's to say the least by I digress. The attacks are mostly going to be close range, as I had intended the beam is a just in case scenario. Also the defensive part is only in his full Kirrin form, while he is in a hybrid form he is still rather vulnerable having to rely on his speed mostly to avoid things. As I mentioned earlier this isn't an immovable object defense but it is quite strong. I have a penchant for using hyperbole like I said and I suppose some could construe to as being too powerful yet I have a character who's devil fruit can reduce things to a quantum singularity and thus far have not killed a player. Lol. | |
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Irrational Admin
Posts : 1284 Join date : 2008-07-20 Age : 35 Location : No one needs to know.
| Subject: Re: Koden Koden no Mi, Model: Kirin Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:21 am | |
| A quantum sungularity? It seems I have been gone far too long indeed. The power ceiling may have very well been raised. | |
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Faceofbear
Posts : 94 Join date : 2009-05-25
| Subject: Re: Koden Koden no Mi, Model: Kirin Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:23 am | |
| Well, more precisely he can alter the way gravity effects anything directly touching his hands to infinity. Lol. Which well...is a singularity but not really because I didn't mention the event horizon...but anyway. Lol. | |
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Faceofbear
Posts : 94 Join date : 2009-05-25
| Subject: Re: Koden Koden no Mi, Model: Kirin Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:10 pm | |
| Bump?! It's been like 2 days. | |
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Irrational Admin
Posts : 1284 Join date : 2008-07-20 Age : 35 Location : No one needs to know.
| Subject: Re: Koden Koden no Mi, Model: Kirin Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:15 pm | |
| Power issue resolved, it seems the only thing we have an issue with is the additional ability to use electricity. While there is a cannon zoan fruit that is aligned with and uses fire, it seemed that the body was made of fire, but the user could not manipulate it. Ultimately though, there is little information on said fruit so we can only speculate. That in and of itself is what is making this approval difficult for myself.
Another moderator may have their own opinions about this, but I have been thinking about this. | |
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Faceofbear
Posts : 94 Join date : 2009-05-25
| Subject: Re: Koden Koden no Mi, Model: Kirin Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:16 pm | |
| He couldn't manipulate it true, but Marco could instantly regenerate from wounds while a phoenix. So rather than having that I chose a more offensive route lol and he could also shoot fire as a phoenix it was shown around when he first used it. | |
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Irrational Admin
Posts : 1284 Join date : 2008-07-20 Age : 35 Location : No one needs to know.
| Subject: Re: Koden Koden no Mi, Model: Kirin Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:20 pm | |
| As a final note, I would like Admin-sama to put his thoughts into this. Our maximum power level rule obviously comes into play here and he is debating whether or not to change it.
Without a final decision on that rule, I can not make a choice that will stand as a guarantee. | |
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Faceofbear
Posts : 94 Join date : 2009-05-25
| Subject: Re: Koden Koden no Mi, Model: Kirin Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:21 pm | |
| I wasn't lookin' for you to make a final choice. I was only saying. XD | |
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